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task #10714: Submission of kaso verb conjugation system

Submitter:  Mark J. Olesen <markjolesen>
Submitted:  Thu 21 Oct 2010 09:46:51 PM UTC
   
 
Should Start On:  Thu 21 Oct 2010 12:00:00 AM UTC Should be Finished on:  Sun 31 Oct 2010 12:00:00 AM UTC
Category:  Project Approval Priority:  * 5 - Normal
Status:  Done Privacy:  Public
Assigned to:  marioxcc Open/Closed:  Closed
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Sat 30 Oct 2010 04:29:20 PM UTC, comment #6: 

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2010-10-30 in GNU Savannah task #10714: "Submission of kaso verb
conjugation system".

I think everything is ok now.

I have approved this project.  You will receive an auto-generated
email containing detailed information about the approval.

Regards and thanks for you'r efforts.

Item status changes:

Status -> Done
Open/Closed -> Closed
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Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc>
Wed 27 Oct 2010 09:21:06 PM UTC, comment #5: 

Hello Mario,

As suggested, I have changed the license headers to a BSD 2-clause style. The full source tree (no database) with changes have been uploaded here:

http://savannah.gnu.org/submissions_uploads/kvc_clean.tar.gz

Please let me know if you see anything else that has compliance issues. Thanks again for your consideration.

Mark J. Olesen <markjolesen>
Wed 27 Oct 2010 03:14:55 AM UTC, comment #4: 

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2010-10-24 in GNU Savannah task #10714: "Submission of kaso verb
conjugation system".

> So, does changing it from ISC to something else that is permissive
> really matter?  Let me know your thoughts, and I would be happy to
> reconsider.


The possible problem with the ISC license is it may be interpreted as
being nonfree because of it wording, as explained in
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#ISC.

The document you referred seems to talk about permissive licenses in
general without specific bias towards the ISC license or something
else.  Is there a particular reason because you chose the ISC license
instead of another permissive license?.

I'm asking you to change to a similar, but clearly worded license just
to avoid unlikley but still possible misunderstanding according to the
GNU page comment about the ISC license.
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Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc>
Mon 25 Oct 2010 03:52:14 PM UTC, comment #3: 

Sorry, yes .swp files are a mistake and will be removed.

I do not have a problem removing the current license headers (source has never been released) and changing it to an EXPAT or FreeBSD style license or for that matter the WTFPL (Do What The **bleep**** You Want To Public License).  Please note, however, I choose the ISC license based on notes from the following document:

A Legal Issues Primer for Open Source and Free Software Projects
3 March 2008
Version 1.5.1
http://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2008/foss-primer.html

So, does changing it from ISC to something else that is permissive
really matter?  Let me know your thoughts, and I would be happy to
reconsider.

Thanks in advance,
Mark

Mark J. Olesen <markjolesen>
Sun 24 Oct 2010 07:36:38 PM UTC, comment #2: 

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2010-10-24 in GNU Savannah task #10714: "Submission of kaso verb
conjugation system".

Excuse me, it should be

More information in http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#ISC.

Let us know your decision :-).
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Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc>
Sun 24 Oct 2010 07:32:27 PM UTC, comment #1: 

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2010-10-24 in GNU Savannah task #10714: "Submission of kaso verb
conjugation system".

Hi.

I'm evaluating the project you submitted for approval in GNU Savannah.
You can reach the rest Savannah hackers (Staff) in this list:
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/savannah-hackers-public.

I noticed some issues with the tarball you submited:

There are some *.swp files, I assume these accidentally sliped into
the tarball.  Let me know if you really meant to host them at GNU
Savannah.

Please note whether a license is "open source" or not, by itself is
irrelevant regarding our hosting requirements.  Savannah's mission is
to host free software projects, and we want the public to think of
them as such.  We think "open source" misses the point of free
software.  More information in
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html.
Please read our hosting requirements if you haven't alredy:
https://savannah.gnu.org/register/requirements.php.

The ISC license is a free software license according to the most
common interpretation but it suffer from an unfortunate wording
choice: it provides recipients with "Permission to use, copy, modify,
and/or distribute this software [...]" This is roughly the same
language from the license of Pine that the University of Washington
later claimed prohibited people from distributing modified versions of
the software.

We suggest you switch to a clearly worded license like the Expat
license which is similarly permissive and brief or better yet, to a
copyleft license like the GNU GPL.  More information in
http://www.isc.org/software/license.  There is a short comment about
why to copyleft in http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-copyleft.html (It
contains a link to a longer essay) but even if you decide to not
Copyleft this software, please consider using a clear license, this
might avoid problems in the future.

Regards and thanks.

Item status changes:

Assigned to -> marioxcc
Status -> In progress
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Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc>
Thu 21 Oct 2010 09:46:51 PM UTC, original submission:  

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  • Name: kaso verb conjugation system
  • System Name:  kasoverb
  • Type: non-GNU software & documentation
  • License: Other (source code (software) is under ISC license

http://www.opensource.org/licenses/isc-license.txt

data (database) will be released under a CC-BY-SA license(not attached; very large))




Description:

KASO Verb Conjugation System allows complete split-second conjugation of verbs in English, Spanish, and Italian--in any order. Twenty-two columns of verb-related information allow tense-related comparisons in any or all three languages

The attached tar ball contains a %100 complete rewrite with a free software license of the Windows proprietary version (http://special.brandenbooks.com/).


Other Software Required:

fltk 1.3.x
GNU Library Public License, Version 2
http://fltk.org/


Other Comments:

sources
http://savannah.gnu.org/submissions_uploads/kvc.tar.gz
screen shot
http://savannah.gnu.org/submissions_uploads/kvc.png

please note, this project is a work in progress
(getting close to beta stage)

Thanks for your thoughtful consideration of hosting the project. I am looking forward to your answer.

I can be contacted via e-mail:
-email is unavailable-


Tarball URL:

http://savannah.gnu.org/submissions_uploads/kvc.tar.gz


Mark J. Olesen <markjolesen>

 

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