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task #10659: Submission of GARBLE

Submitter:  Atom X <atomx>
Submitted:  Tue 05 Oct 2010 04:07:06 PM UTC
   
 
Should Start On:  Tue 05 Oct 2010 07:00:00 AM UTC Should be Finished on:  Fri 15 Oct 2010 07:00:00 AM UTC
Category:  Project Approval Priority:  * 5 - Normal
Status:  Cancelled Privacy:  Public
Assigned to:  marioxcc Open/Closed:  Closed
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Sun 10 Oct 2010 03:47:21 PM UTC, comment #5: 

Thank you!  Resubmitted with new licensing terms.

Atom X <atomx>
Sun 10 Oct 2010 01:13:21 PM UTC, comment #4: 

Hi Atom,

The project had not been deleted yet, just the submission. I have now completed the cancellation; you should be able to submit it again now.

Thanks for your patience, Alex.

Alex Fernandez <alexfernandez>
Sun 10 Oct 2010 04:48:14 AM UTC, comment #3: 

I just attempted re-submission is it possible to do so under the same project name?

Atom X <atomx>
Sun 10 Oct 2010 04:36:29 AM UTC, comment #2: 

I understand your concerns with the licensing, and indeed I've been back-and-forth myself with this.  It was not my intent to restrict the use, distribution or modification of the software itself, nor to stop its use and development commercially.  Rather, I felt any artwork or written work of an artistic nature, i.e. not manuals or other technical documents, would be considered editorial or opinion in nature, representing the <i>views</i> of the project and its contributors, rather than the software itself.

I understand your concerns, though.  I can see how, if any artwork is included with the software itself, it may be regarded as <i>part</i> of the software, and thus should be no more restricted than the actual code or other functional pieces.  This seems logical and not unreasonable to me now, and therefore I accept that my former choice of licensing restrictions was unwarranted and potentially even harmful.

I will re-submit my project with the objections you've raised noted.  If any work of an editorial nature is produced for inclusion with this project, it will be released without any more restriction than a basic CC-(BY-)?-SA license, or under the GNU FDL.

Thank you for reviewing my submission.

Atom X <atomx>
Sun 10 Oct 2010 04:06:03 AM UTC, comment #1: 

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2010-10-09 in GNU Savannah task #10659: "Submission of GARBLE".

Hello.

There are some ethical and practical issues with the licensing of this
project as you described it:

> The restrictions are automatic in order to keep the project from
> being misrepresented or abused


In some cases (Works of opinion and judgmentf) for example, it's valid
to restrict modifications, that's something which should be analized
on a case per case basis; there is more information about the issue in
[1].  However, regarding software itself we think the right to make
public or private modifications is essential [2].

> but if any artwork is to be modified/used commercially with no
> harmful intent (or possibly to be of benefit to the project),
> permission will be granted for use provided that any derived works
> be licensed as Creative Commons No Derivatives, Share-Alike
> Noncommercial USA.)


There are several problems with this, from the free software
definition [2]:

  • "harmful intent" and "benefit" are void terms in this scope: both

  are subjetive terms which can almost always be argued for either
  side.  If user modifications are limited, in substance, to changes
  that someone else considers an improvement that is not freedom.

  • A free program must be available for commercial use, commercial

  development, and commercial distribution. Commercial development of
  free software is no longer unusual; such free commercial software is
  very important. You may have paid money to get copies of free
  software, or you may have obtained copies at no charge. But
  regardless of how you got your copies, you always have the freedom
  to copy and change the software, even to sell copies.

Please register your project again with these issues fixed.  Make sure
you read carefully the hosting requirements [3] and the checklist in
the registration form, so you will only need to re-register once.  I
also suggest you read [4] to familiarize yourself with our philosophy.

Regards.

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[1]: Various Licenses and Comments about Them
     http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#OpinionLicensens

[2]: The Free Software Definition
     http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

[3]: GNU Savannah Hosting Requirements
     https://savannah.gnu.org/register/requirements.php

[4]: Why Software Should Not Have Owners
     http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-free.html

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Item status changes:

Assigned to -> marioxcc.
Status -> Cancelled
Open/Cloesd -> Closed
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Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc>
Tue 05 Oct 2010 04:07:06 PM UTC, original submission:  

A new project has been registered at Savannah
This project account will remain inactive until a site admin approves or discards the registration.


Registration Administration


While this item will be useful to track the registration process, approving or discarding the registration must be done using the specific Group Administration page, accessible only to site administrators, effectively logged as site administrators (superuser):



Registration Details


  • Name: GARBLE
  • System Name:  garble
  • Type: non-GNU software & documentation
  • License: GNU General Public License v3 or later (All documentation will be licensed under the GNU FDL.


All artistic content (logos, propaganda) will be licensed under a Creative Commons No Derivatives, Share-Alike Noncommercial USA license, with explicit instructions on obtaining permission to create derivative works and use commercially.  The restrictions are automatic in order to keep the project from being misrepresented or abused, but if any artwork is to be modified/used commercially with no harmful intent (or possibly to be of benefit to the project), permission will be granted for use provided that any derived works be licensed as Creative Commons No Derivatives, Share-Alike Noncommercial USA.)




Description:

GARBLE - The Guile/Ada Rich Binding for Language Extension

GARBLE is an Ada 2005 thick binding to the Guile (GNU Ubiquitous Intelligent Language for Extension) API, providing flexible, powerful scripting for your solid, powerful Ada language software.

GARBLE targets the GNAT compiler, developed by AdaCore and as part of GCC, and the 2.0-and-later releases of Guile.

What's <em>not</em> awesome about Scheme and Ada together?


Other Software Required:

GNAT Ada 2005 compiler + GPL v3 or later + http://libre.adacore.com

Guile + GPL v3 or later + http://www.gnu.org/software/guile

GNU Autoconf (for build from svn/git/bzr/mtn) + GPLv3 and later with Autoconf output exception + http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf


Tarball URL:

http://www.deadlyhead.com/garble/garble-unreleased.tar.xz


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