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sr #107321: Add index.shtml to apache's DirectoryIndex

Submitter:  Sam Liddicott <samjam>
Submitted:  Fri 26 Mar 2010 09:17:22 AM UTC
Votes: 100
 
Category:  Project webpages Priority:  5 - Normal
Severity:  3 - Normal Status:  Wont Do
Privacy:  Public Assigned to:  mjflick
Operating System:  None Open/Closed:  Closed
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Sun 31 Jul 2011 09:41:55 PM UTC, comment #12: 
Anonymous
Fri 10 Jun 2011 09:58:53 PM UTC, comment #11: 

sysadmins enabled ssi for nongnu in *.html -- it was an oversight that it had not been re-enabled :(.  I tested it in one of my projects (http://www.nongnu.org/listhelper/) and it looked good to me now.  (No SSI conditional there, though, hope it still flies.)

Karl Berry <karl>
Site Administrator
Thu 09 Jun 2011 09:58:03 PM UTC, comment #10: 

Many apologies for the misinformation, then.  I really thought ssi was enabled for all.  I will ask the FSF sysadmins.

Karl Berry <karl>
Site Administrator
Thu 09 Jun 2011 03:00:01 PM UTC, comment #9: 

I can report that index.html is not SSI-parsed.

Compare:
http://www.nongnu.org/newfangle/index.html
and
http://www.nongnu.org/newfangle/index.shtml

And see that the index.html still contains the unparsed directive on line 1:
<!--#if expr="! ${template}" --><!--#include virtual="/newfangle/template.shtml" --><!--#else -->

and note that it looks boring

Please either make all html files SSI-parsed, or add index.shtml to the directory index directive.

Sam Liddicott <samjam>
Thu 09 Jun 2011 07:05:07 AM UTC, comment #8: 


> Well, index.html is SSI-parsed, so what's the problem?


Hah - I never knew that! Thanks!

Sam Liddicott <samjam>
Wed 08 Jun 2011 09:29:57 PM UTC, comment #7: 

Well, index.html is SSI-parsed, so what's the problem?

Personally I've seen far more sites with index.html (using SSI)
than index.shtml.

And anyway of course the url's should not refer to either, specifically, but just the directory.

The issue is not computer resources; of course that is effectively zero.  but you would be surprised to learn all the crazy stuff that happens to serve up the web sites.  Reducing the number of index file names really does simplify the scripts and infrastructure behind it all.

At any rate, it is the FSF sysadmins who control the server and the configuration.  (So, incidentally, we can't do the mime thing you just requested, either.  Will pass that on to the sysadmins shortly ...)

k

Karl Berry <karl>
Site Administrator
Wed 08 Jun 2011 09:28:29 PM UTC, comment #6: 

I suppose that when you intentionally reduced the list based on what people were actually using, SSI was disabled, so nobody was actually using it...

Nobody will actually use it now, until it actually works :-)

Sam Liddicott <samjam>
Wed 08 Jun 2011 09:24:34 PM UTC, comment #5: 

Well... - a basic index.html landing page is bad practise as google will say. The shtml is what puts in my navigation and so forth.

...and including index.shtml in the directory index is common practise where SSI is used.

I could put in a dumb index.html with a javascript redirect, but it's not right...

Thanks very kindly for having SSI enabled.

if you add index.shtml to the list it will only use extra CPU cycles when loading apache and in the case where there were no other index.* files. And only a few bytes of RAM!

please?

Sam Liddicott <samjam>
Wed 08 Jun 2011 09:00:22 PM UTC, comment #4: 

Yes, we asked the sysadmins to reenable SSI for nongnu perhaps a month or two ago, which they did.  As far as I can recall with the moon as it is now :).

Can't you just use index.html?  We intentionally reduced the list of index pages after reviewing what people were actually using.

Best,
Karl

Karl Berry <karl>
Site Administrator
Wed 08 Jun 2011 06:04:40 PM UTC, comment #3: 

SSI support comes and goes depending on the phases of the moon.

Will you please add it anyway. SSI seems to be working right now (and a good job, it saves me moving to google-code)

Sam Liddicott <samjam>
Sat 26 Feb 2011 08:28:55 PM UTC, comment #2: 

I take that back, I was just about to send one and remembered that SSI was turned off on the web server for non-gnu project for security-related reasons.

You'll have to use HTML.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Michael J. Flickinger <mjflick>
Sat 26 Feb 2011 08:23:09 PM UTC, comment #1: 

Hi,

I've submitted a ticket to the FSF admin, who administrate the web server, regarding this issue.

Michael J. Flickinger <mjflick>
Fri 26 Mar 2010 09:17:22 AM UTC, original submission:  

Thankfully, savannah project homepage hosting supports .shtml files for server-side includes, but index.shtml is not served up.

Please could index.shtml be added to the DirectoryIndex directive so that it is served up.

Thanks

Sam Liddicott <samjam>

 

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