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sr #106481: Not sure if www-tr-admin ML is created successfully

Submitter:  Ali Servet Donmez <exalted>
Submitted:  Tue 26 Aug 2008 08:21:22 AM UTC
   
 
Category:  Project mailing lists Priority:  5 - Normal
Severity:  3 - Normal Status:  Done
Privacy:  Public Assigned to:  Beuc
Operating System:  GNU/Linux Open/Closed:  Closed
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Fri 29 Aug 2008 08:46:23 AM UTC, comment #12: 

I guess Sylvain was right: I shouldn't have used "-admin" keyword in list name, but also MailMan should have warn me for that. Anway, new mailing list will work with no issues. Thanks for your support!

Ali Servet Donmez <exalted>
Fri 29 Aug 2008 08:14:05 AM UTC, comment #11: 

I deleted www-tr-admin mailing list and created a new one for administration purposes. I'll keep you posted.

@Sylvain: sorry for references. I'll do it better next time ;-)

Ali Servet Donmez <exalted>
Thu 28 Aug 2008 05:20:00 PM UTC, comment #10: 

For reference, I confused myself with all the links. In this context, where the URL of the webpages are significant, it's much better to include them directly in the body of the message rather than in footnotes. I needed to constantly jump up and down in your message (which was bigger than the screen height) to understand what this was about - add apparently failed :)

Sylvain Beucler <Beuc>
Thu 28 Aug 2008 05:17:42 PM UTC, comment #9: 

Hi,

Apparently -join / -leave / -owner / -request / -admin are reserved by Mailman and can't be used as a list suffix.

You need to name your list differently.
(preferrably delete it and recreate it)

Cheers,

Sylvain Beucler <Beuc>
Thu 28 Aug 2008 08:33:53 AM UTC, comment #8: 

I tried to send a mail to www-tr-admin from a different e-mail address, which is a free yahoo account of mine; but that won't succeed neither. I'm attaching error receipt...

(file #16375)

Ali Servet Donmez <exalted>
Thu 28 Aug 2008 08:19:21 AM UTC, comment #7: 

Oh yeah? How? Are we talking about the same archives? [0]

[0]: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/www-tr-admin

Ali Servet Donmez <exalted>
Thu 28 Aug 2008 07:32:31 AM UTC, comment #6: 

The archives look ready now.

Sylvain Beucler <Beuc>
Wed 27 Aug 2008 08:38:32 AM UTC, comment #5: 

I'll reply here even if this post is closed, but I don't see this related to sr #106478, anyway:

I've noticed that on mailing list interface of www-tr [0], if you click on archives link of any "publicly available" list (say "www-tr-comm" for instance), it will take you to [1]; but if you do the same with some "authorization required" mailing list's archive you'll get [2].

As you can see [1] and [2] are different addresses not only because they lead to different mailing lists, but they have completely different address pattern.

Now, in case you can't access to "www-tr-internal"s archives, let me quote you what you get as a result:

#BEGINQUOTE
The Www-tr-internal Archives

No messages have been posted to this list yet, so the archives are currently empty. You can get more information about this list. [3]
#ENDQUOTE

But this isn't actually true, since there are messages sent over www-tr-internal; to prove this click on [3] and go to the www-tr-internal's listinfo page and there click on arvhives link [4], which will (somehow) redirect us to [5].

Now, as you can see [1] and [5] will match, except for the last part, which is perfectly okay.

If I do the same for "www-tr-admin" this will result in [6], which contains:

#BEGINQUOTE
Not Found

The requested URL /archive/html/www-tr-admin was not found on this server.
#ENDQUOTE

I guess this is because we don't have no mails in "www-tr-admin" yet; but I'm not able to send no mails there, but any other (public or private) mailing lists available for "www-tr" group, various other gnu.org mailing lists or available on the Internet.

I hope info. above could be much of a help.

Regards,
Ali

[0]: https://savannah.gnu.org/mail/?group=www-tr
[1]: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/www-tr-comm/
[2]: http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/private/www-tr-internal/
[3]: http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/www-tr-internal
[4]: http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/www-tr-internal/
[5]: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/www-tr-internal/
[6]: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/www-tr-admin

Ali Servet Donmez <exalted>
Tue 26 Aug 2008 06:47:30 PM UTC, comment #4: 
Sylvain Beucler <Beuc>
Tue 26 Aug 2008 03:51:57 PM UTC, comment #3: 

Sure, couple of times, but this is what I get back:

#BEGINQUOTE
This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

  -email is unavailable-
    SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<www-tr-admin@gnu.org>:
    host lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]: 550 Unknown user

------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------

Return-path: <SRS0=Q+E4By=ZF=pittle.org=asd@yourhostingaccount.com>
Received: from mailout17.yourhostingaccount.com ([65.254.253.139]:44368)
        by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60)
        (envelope-from <SRS0=Q+E4By=ZF=pittle.org=asd@yourhostingaccount.com>)
        id 1KXvqu-0007IA-8v
        for www-tr-admin@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:32:44 -0400
Received: from mailscan16.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.16] helo=mailscan16.yourhostingaccount.com)
        by mailout17.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim)
        id 1KXvqt-0001Et-IC
        for www-tr-admin@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:32:43 -0400
Received: from impout03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.3] helo=impout03.yourhostingaccount.com)
        by mailscan16.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim)
        id 1KXvqt-0001Gm-AB
        for www-tr-admin@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:32:43 -0400
Received: from authsmtp09.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.9])
        by impout03.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE
        id 6yYi1a0020BkWne0000000; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:32:42 -0400
X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.9
X-EN-IMPSID: 6yYi1a0020BkWne0000000
Received: from fw-pool-128.gruppocredit.it ([193.193.172.128] helo=[10.254.214.172])
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        for www-tr-admin@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:32:42 -0400
Subject: Genel durum
From: Ali Servet =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=F6nmez?= <asd@pittle.org>
To: -email is unavailable-
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:46:42 +0200
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Sender:  Ali Servet Dnmez <asd@pittle.org>
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X-EN-OrigHost: fw-pool-128.gruppocredit.it
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P=C4=B1nar, ne durumdas=C4=B1n?

Ben vakit buldu=C4=9Fumda "www" (www.gnu.org'un as=C4=B1l deposu) =C3=BCzer=
inde
de=C4=9Fi=C5=9Fiklikler yap=C4=B1yorum.

Bana neler yap=C4=B1p yapamayaca=C4=9F=C4=B1n=C4=B1 belirtmeni rica ediyoru=
m, gerekiyorsa
sana www.gnu.org yeni sistemde (ad=C4=B1na GNUN diyorlar) nas=C4=B1l =C3=A7=
al=C4=B1=C5=9Ft=C4=B1=C4=9F=C4=B1n=C4=B1
anlatmal=C4=B1 ve bana yard=C4=B1mc=C4=B1 olman=C4=B1 sa=C4=9Flamal=C4=B1y=
=C4=B1m, =C3=A7ok yaln=C4=B1z
hissediyorum...

Ayr=C4=B1ca kendi CVS depomuzu da d=C3=BCzenlemeli ve kullanmaya ba=C5=9Fla=
mal=C4=B1y=C4=B1z...

Sevecenlikler,
Ali

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Ali Servet D=C3=B6nmez <asd@pittle.org>

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Ali Servet Donmez <exalted>
Tue 26 Aug 2008 03:41:30 PM UTC, comment #2: 

TTBOMK, archives won't be created until the first message is sent.  Have you done this already?

Yavor Doganov <yavor>
Tue 26 Aug 2008 08:26:01 AM UTC, comment #1: 

My problem also looks like to "sr #105741" [0] and I see a common pattern, which is "-admin" keyword at the end of the ML's name. I'm not sure if this could be any problem, I just wanted to point this out in case it may help you...

Regards,
Ali Servet Dönmez

[0]: https://savannah.gnu.org/support/?105741

Ali Servet Donmez <exalted>
Tue 26 Aug 2008 08:21:22 AM UTC, original submission:  

Hi,

could you please confirm if mailing list www-tr-admin is successfully created since yesterday? I can access to admin interface, but archives or such won't show up [0].

Thanks for your support.

Regards,
Ali Servet Dönmez

[0]: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/www-tr-admin

Ali Servet Donmez <exalted>

 

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