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bug #58310: Suggestions on selected Cyrillic characters. Part 3: the Psi

Submitted by:  Matvei Davydov <matt_d>
Submitted on:  Wed 06 May 2020 01:22:23 PM UTC  
 
Category:  individual character(s) Severity:  3 - Normal
Item Group:  glyph(s) ugly Status:  Fixed
Privacy:  Public Assigned to:  Steve White <Stevan_White>
Open/Closed:  Open Release:  development

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Sun 10 May 2020 06:24:19 AM UTC, comment #6: 

Hi Steve,

Yes, you're right, I meant those serifs and called them the 'edges' by mistake. And it's nice to hear, that you are planning to remove them. Thank you in advance!

Matvei Davydov <matt_d>
Sat 09 May 2020 09:00:31 AM UTC, comment #5: 

Oh, now I see.  Those bottom "serifs" -- I guess those, too, were my invention.  Maybe I was seeing serifs were there were none, or maybe I had gone serif-happy, or more likely -- I just turned the glyph of 'de' upside-down.

Yes, I will remove those.  The letters are much more elegant without them.

Steve White <Stevan_White>
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Fri 08 May 2020 10:00:32 AM UTC, comment #4: 

Hi,

Steve, we both misunderstood each other. And it's my fault.
My proposal to substitute the present form of Psi with a Greek one was a mistake. (I couldn't find right words to express my idea). Actually, the only thing I want is to get rid of sharp edges (NOT the corners) as it shown at the images. As far as I know Psi never had such edges. And that'll be enough.

Matvei Davydov <matt_d>
Thu 07 May 2020 03:46:35 PM UTC, comment #3: 

Hi,

Matvei, it really isn't a matter of your English.  That is fine!

And it is plain to me that the Greek form is rounder, while the sample in the Unicode Standard has corners.  This is a matter of style.

But a personal preference really isn't sufficient for me to take a form significantly different from the standard.

I need to understand why, where, and when these two forms are used, and a good argument for why the Greek form should be preferred here.

Steve White <Stevan_White>
Project AdministratorIn charge of this item.
Thu 07 May 2020 02:44:28 PM UTC, comment #2: 

Hi,

комментарий №1:

> Hi,
>
> The form in FreeFont resembles the Unicode samples.
>
> The Tempora glyph is basically the Greek form.
>
> I would need a better understanding of where these two forms came from, to make a change.


It's my poor English once again.
Please, look at the images attached. You'll see what I have meant.

Without the edges Psi has a nicer and smoother look. And I should add, now it resembles Unicode samples even more.


Matvei Davydov <matt_d>
Wed 06 May 2020 07:20:11 PM UTC, comment #1: 

Hi,

The form in FreeFont resembles the Unicode samples.

The Tempora glyph is basically the Greek form.

I would need a better understanding of where these two forms came from, to make a change.

Steve White <Stevan_White>
Project AdministratorIn charge of this item.
Wed 06 May 2020 01:22:23 PM UTC, original submission:  

Hi Steve,

My suggestion refers both to upper-case Psi (U+0470) and lower-case Psi (U+0471).

As for now the Psi character in the FreeSerif is not pleasant looking. I should like to point out in particular those sharp 'prickly' edges on the both sides in the middle.

In comparison with variants from Kryukov's Tempora LGC Uni the last ones look smooth and more elegant (despite the fact that lower-case Psi in Tempora lacks serif at the end of its leg). Please, Look at the pic attached.

On my opinion it'd be better and easier just to put the original Kryukov's glyphs into the FreeSerif. The only thing I ask you is not to forget adding serif to the leg of lower-case Psi.

Matvei Davydov <matt_d>

 

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file #49029:  Psi_1.jpg added by matt_d (42KiB - image/jpeg)
file #49030:  Psi_2.jpg added by matt_d (29KiB - image/jpeg)
file #49012:  Psi.JPG added by matt_d (37KiB - image/jpeg)

 

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    Date Changed by Updated Field Previous Value => Replaced by
    2020-09-02 Stevan_White StatusProceeding => Fixed
    2020-05-09 Stevan_White StatusNeed info => Proceeding
    2020-05-07 matt_d Attached File- => Added Psi_1.jpg, #49029
        Attached File- => Added Psi_2.jpg, #49030
    2020-05-06 Stevan_White StatusNone => Need info
        Assigned toNone => Stevan_White
    2020-05-06 matt_d Attached File- => Added Psi.JPG, #49012

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