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task #4589: Submission of Open Source CAM Emulator

Submitter:  BveB TR <bveb>
Submitted:  Wed 31 Aug 2005 07:14:26 AM UTC
   
 
Should Start On:  Wed 31 Aug 2005 12:00:00 AM UTC Should be Finished on:  Sat 10 Sep 2005 12:00:00 AM UTC
Category:  Project Approval Priority:  * 5 - Normal
Status:  Cancelled Privacy:  Public
Assigned to:  kickino Open/Closed:  Closed
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Tue 06 Sep 2005 08:24:02 PM UTC, comment #7: 

Hello.

Okay, we skip the registration on this point.

Regards,

Sebastian Wieseler <kickino>
Mon 05 Sep 2005 09:02:28 PM UTC, comment #6: 

Hello.

vdr-sc was released under the GNU General Public License. So you can use it under the terms of this license (redistrubition and/or modify of the source code is allowed)

So where is the problem?


And please note that commercial does not mean proprietary.

Free Software means that users have certain freedoms; it does not mean zero price.
"Commercial" means "associated with business"; a commercial program may be free or non-free, depending on its license.
So it is a mistake to treat "free" and "commercial" as contraries.  When a business develops free software,
that is free commercial software.


Regards,

Sebastian Wieseler <kickino>
Fri 02 Sep 2005 10:56:26 AM UTC, comment #5: 

|Are these algorithms free available, so that everybody is allowed to have a look at them and changed them?

Hi,
it is certain that algorithms developed for commercial purposes.I think they aer copyrighted. Also main purpose of Emunation is emulate CAM and decrypt pay tv. So it is completely an illegal project for Savannah.

|Then why do you choose the name "Open Source CAM Emulator"?

It is not open source yet. If I find the host I will open sources.. It "will be" open source:)

|We only host projects that can run on a free operating system (such as GNU/Linux).

But main purpose is to port excellent emu vdr-sc (which is under Linux also you can obtain code from here - vdr.bluox.org/vdr-sc.htm -) to windows part and make sources avaiable also..

|At last, if we could have a look at your source code, it would be great. :-)

Source is same as vdr-sc some changes like on API made. Compliled with MinGW platform. Thats all. But core part is same with vdr-sc.. Other parts not important.

At last, I completely understood this project is not suitable for Savannah..
Regards.

BveB TR <bveb>
Thu 01 Sep 2005 08:06:31 AM UTC, comment #4: 

Hello.

| Some "hacked" DVB crypto algorithms

Are these algorithms free available, so that everybody is allowed to have a look at them and changed them?

| applications under windows

We only host projects that can run on a free operating system (such as GNU/Linux).

We have adopted this policy because now that completely free operating systems exist, we do not want to encourage users of those systems to start using proprietary operating
systems so that they can use your program.

If you are willing to maintain a version for free operating systems, which work as well as or better than other ports, you can then provide versions for non-free systems as well.
The idea is that at no point should only-free users be at a disadvantage compared to users
of proprietary software.

Your project should always work equally well in free systems as in any other version you provide; if you have some modules for non-free systems, you can delay their release until you have released the free operating system version.

Can you clarify this point?


| It is free but not open source

Then why do you choose the name "Open Source CAM Emulator"?
And note that Savannah supports projects of the Free Software movement, not projects of the Open Source movement (see my previous mails).


At last, if we could have a look at your source code, it would be great. :-)

Regards,

Sebastian Wieseler <kickino>
Thu 01 Sep 2005 06:24:00 AM UTC, comment #3: 

Hi,
For legal issues it is not appropriate to host this project for you. Some "hacked" DVB crypto algorithms included with source. This software is a free "plugin" for DVB applications under windows. It is free but not open source and I try to find a CVS host. I think again that is not suitable for Savannah.

Sorry again for wasting your time...Feel free to reject it..

Thanks in advance.

BveB TR <bveb>
Wed 31 Aug 2005 07:35:06 PM UTC, comment #2: 

Hi again.

Forgotten but:

Savannah's mission is to host free software projects, and we want the public to think of them as free software projects.  A project name that says "open" will tend to lead people to think of the project as "open source" instead of "free software".

We would be glad if you accept to use "free" instead of "open" in your project name.

Can you please tell me another name than "Open Source CAM Emulator"?



And note that Savannah supports projects of the Free Software movement, not projects of the Open Source movement.

We are careful about ethical issues and insist on producing software that is not dependent on proprietary software.

While Open Source as defined by its founders means something pretty close to Free Software, it's frequently
misunderstood.

For more information, please see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html.


Regards,

Sebastian Wieseler <kickino>
Wed 31 Aug 2005 06:51:28 PM UTC, comment #1: 

Hi,
I'm evaluating the project you submitted for approval in Savannah.


We need a detailed technical description that specifies such requirements as programming languages and external libraries.
It should be at least one-half a page.


Then please include a (perhaps temporary) URL pointing to the source code.
The description you gave when registering will not be read by the general public.
If you are still concerned with privacy, however, you can forward the code to me by email.

We wish to review your source code, even if it is not functional, to catch potential legal issues early.

For example, to release your program properly under the GPL you must include a copyright notice and
permission-to-copy statements at the beginning of every file of source code.  This is explained in
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-howto.html.  Our review would help catch potential omissions such as these.

Regards,

Sebastian Wieseler <kickino>
Wed 31 Aug 2005 07:14:26 AM UTC, original submission:  

A new project has been registered at Savannah
The project account will remain inactive until a site admin approve or discard the registration.


######### REGISTRATION ADMINISTRATION #########

While this item will be useful to track the registration process, approving or discarding the registration must be done using the specific "Group Administration" page, accessible only to site administrators, effectively logged as site administrators (superuser):

  <https://savannah.gnu.org/admin/groupedit.php?group_id=7935>


######### REGISTRATION DETAILS #########

Full Name:
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  Open Source CAM Emulator

System Group Name:
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  emunation

Type:
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  non-GNU software & documentation

License:
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  GNU General Public License V2 or later with GNU Classpath special exception

Description:
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  Emunation

Conditional Access Module emulator based on vdr-sc plugin. It implements Multidec and DVBCore API for connect host applications. All decrypting issues are for educational purposes only.

Other Software Required:
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  OpenSSL.(Binaries are included with package)


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