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sr #108134: Use XDG dirs instead of $HOME

Submitter:  Oliver Propst <oliverp>
Submitted:  Sun 16 Sep 2012 11:11:47 AM UTC
Votes:  450  
 
Category:  None Priority:  5 - Normal
Severity:  3 - Normal Status:  Wont Do
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Open/Closed:  Open Operating System:  GNU/Linux
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Sat 27 Aug 2022 07:36:27 PM UTC, comment #8: 

Hello, I'd like this feature too (supporting moving configuration files to a user-specified directory). My goal is to organize my home directory and centralize all user configuration in a single directory that's not hidden (doesn't start with a dot). I expect to reduce my home directory by almost 70 files and keep only 2 dozen directories in it, none of them being hidden files.

Anonymous
Wed 17 Aug 2022 09:44:39 PM UTC, comment #7: 

1. Here's my two cents. Hosting or version controlling configuration files becomes dead simple when everything is in XDG_CONFIG_HOME. No symlink hell. Oh, and easy to omit cache that isn't essential when it's time for backups / disk cleaning.

2. I'm compelled to argue towards the opposite. Not following this standard will continue to create edge-cases that have to be accounted for by every user that attempts to interact with bash but knows about the XDG base directory spec.

gabrielhansson <gibbz>
Mon 25 Jul 2022 02:22:54 PM UTC, comment #6: 

Because someone has to add that support, which leads to two reasons:

1. No one has ever been able to articulate a compelling reason
   for adding this that doesn't ultimately come down to circular
   reasoning; and

2. It adds technical debt that has to be carried.

Chet Ramey <chet>
Project Administrator
Sat 23 Jul 2022 01:13:25 PM UTC, comment #5: 

What about just adding support for it, simply add an option to enable support for XDG dirs.

BWKC <bwkc>
Wed 12 Oct 2016 03:25:05 AM UTC, comment #4: 

The Bourne-Again Shell is sadly one of the few software tools still not implementing the  XDG Base Directory Specification: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/XDG_Base_Directory_support

Chris <cseelus>
Fri 13 Nov 2015 02:36:20 AM UTC, comment #3: 

There's no reason to change historical behavior here.  All the world is not Linux.

Chet Ramey <chet>
Project Administrator
Sat 05 Jan 2013 09:24:33 AM UTC, comment #2: 

According to XDG Base directory specification,
user preferences should go into $XDG_CONFIG_HOME (which default to ~/.config)
and cached data should go to $XDG_CACHE_HOME (which default to ~/.cache).
More details at :
http://ploum.net/post/207-modify-your-application-to-use-xdg-folders
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/XDGConfigFolders

Full specification can be found at:
http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/latest/

The Freedesktop.org XDG base directory specification have good de facto adoption.
It has been adopted by:
- GNOME ( https://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/XDGConfigFolders )
- GTK+ ( https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=646631 )
- KDE ( http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/XDG_Filesystem_Hierarchy#Freedesktop.org_and_Standard_Directories )
- QT ( http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qt4/qsettings.html#setPath )
- XFCE ( http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-session/advanced in Files and Environment Variables )
- LXDE
- Razor-qt
- VLC ( https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/1267 )
- GStreamer ( https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=518597 )
- Chrome ( http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=16976 )
- many more upstream applications
- Ubuntu ( http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/6557/ & http://packages.ubuntu.com/fr/source/precise/libxdg-basedir )
- Debian ( http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libxdg-basedir1 )
- Red Hat
- Fedora
- Suse
- many more distributions

I think that bash should use same locations than the vast majority of Desktop environment and applications.

There are real advantages of following this specification :
- a lot less cluttered $HOME
- Make backups a lot more safer and easier.
  Backuping your $XDG_DATA_HOME along with your files is enough
  (or just excluding $XDG_CACHE_HOME)
- A lot easier to reset a default configuration if you want/need it (and
  without any risk to loose informations). Even for the software itself
  could choose to reset $XDG_CONFIG_HOME if needed.
- Avoid some strange bugs that happens because you had a old version of
  some configuration file
- A lot more of flexibility and portability because no path are hardcoded.

Eric Heintzmann <eheintzmann>
Wed 21 Nov 2012 12:32:53 PM UTC, comment #1: 
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FaisPas <faispasierch>
Sun 16 Sep 2012 11:11:47 AM UTC, original submission:  

Bash stores ~/.bash_aliases , ~/.bash_history, ~/.bash_logout and ~/.bashrc in the home directory. It would be better to store these files according to the XDG Base Directory Specification.

https://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/XDGConfigFolders
http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/latest/ar01s02.html

Oliver Propst <oliverp>

 

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