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bug #51548: Problems with Latin

Submitter:  David Corbett <dscorbett>
Submitted:  Sun 23 Jul 2017 03:00:11 PM UTC
   
 
Category:  None Severity:  3 - Normal
Item Group:  None Status:  Fixed
Privacy:  Public Assigned to:  unifoundry
Open/Closed:  Closed

Sat 05 Aug 2017 09:12:15 PM UTC, comment #2: 

David,

By the late 1800s, the thorn seems to have taken on its present form. Attached is the beginning of an 1885 publication that I have of a Chaucer manuscript that is in the British Museum, printed for the Chaucer Society. Thanks for bringing attention to that glyph.

If I am the one who drew the thorn, I was probably going from a reproduction of an old Beowulf manuscript.


Paul Hardy



Paul Hardy <unifoundry>
Group administrator
Sun 23 Jul 2017 08:44:47 PM UTC, comment #1: 

David,

I actually have used the thorn for Old English and Middle English. But the Basic Multilingual Plane is supposed to focus on modern scripts, so drawing it the way Icelandic uses it is preferable.

I will go over these modifications after this coming week, when I'm back at my computer.

Thanks,


Paul Hardy

Paul Hardy <unifoundry>
Group administrator
Sun 23 Jul 2017 03:00:11 PM UTC, original submission:  

U+00FE LATIN SMALL LETTER THORN looks Anglo-Saxon. The bowl should be round, for consistency with the capital form and because Icelandic is more popular than Anglo-Saxon nowadays. This goes for its derivatives U+A765 and U+A767 too.

U+0252 LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED ALPHA and U+AB50 LATIN SMALL LETTER UI are vertically mirrored.

The rhotic hooks of U+025A LATIN SMALL LETTER SCHWA WITH HOOK and U+025D LATIN SMALL LETTER REVERSED OPEN E WITH HOOK are too small to look like rhotic hooks.

U+0267 LATIN SMALL LETTER HENG WITH HOOK should have a descender.

U+0278 LATIN SMALL LETTER PHI’s ascender should be as tall as other Latin lowercase letters’.

U+027F LATIN SMALL LETTER REVERSED R WITH FISHHOOK should have a descender.

U+028E LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED Y should be on the baseline.

U+0298 LATIN LETTER BILABIAL CLICK should be caps-height.

U+02A5 LATIN SMALL LETTER DZ DIGRAPH WITH CURL has a pixel which I think makes the curl look like it connects to the ⟨z⟩ in two places instead of one.

The ⟨s⟩ part of U+02A6 LATIN SMALL LETTER TS DIGRAPH is incomplete.

The ⟨s⟩ and ⟨z⟩ parts of U+02AA LATIN SMALL LETTER LS DIGRAPH and U+02AB LATIN SMALL LETTER LZ DIGRAPH are too small.

The modifier letters U+02B3 through U+02B8, U+02E0, U+02E2, U+02E3, U+1D59, U+2071, U+207F, U+A7F8, U+A7F9, and U+AB5D through U+AB5F don’t match most of the modifier letters in Phonetic Extensions, which are the base letters moved up four pixels.

The top of U+02D1 MODIFIER LETTER HALF TRIANGULAR COLON should be even with that of the full triangular colon.

U+02EE MODIFIER LETTER DOUBLE APOSTROPHE should look like a double U+02BC MODIFIER LETTER APOSTROPHE.

U+02F4 MODIFIER LETTER MIDDLE GRAVE ACCENT, U+02F5 MODIFIER LETTER MIDDLE DOUBLE GRAVE ACCENT, and U+02F6 MODIFIER LETTER MIDDLE DOUBLE ACUTE ACCENT should be in the middle and should look like the diacritics they are named after.

U+0300 COMBINING GRAVE ACCENT, U+0301 COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT, U+030B COMBINING DOUBLE ACUTE ACCENT, and U+030F COMBINING DOUBLE GRAVE ACCENT should look like they do in precomposed glyphs.

U+0313 COMBINING COMMA ABOVE and U+0314 COMBINING REVERSED COMMA ABOVE should be centered.

U+1DC0 COMBINING DOTTED GRAVE ACCENT and U+1DC1 COMBINING DOTTED ACUTE ACCENT should be higher to not bump into capital letters.

U+1DCC COMBINING MACRON-BREVE should look like U+1DCB mirrored.

U+1DCF COMBINING ZIGZAG BELOW needn’t be so wide.

U+1DD0 COMBINING IS BELOW is illegible when combined with a letter. My suggested glyph below is designed to work with ⟨b⟩ and ⟨t⟩, the letters with which it combines according to its Unicode proposal.

U+212A KELVIN SIGN should look like U+004B LATIN CAPITAL LETTER K.

U+2180 ROMAN NUMERAL ONE THOUSAND C D should look like U+2182 ROMAN NUMERAL TEN THOUSAND without the inner circle, not a literal ligature of ⟨C⟩ and ⟨D⟩.

U+2183 ROMAN NUMERAL REVERSED ONE HUNDRED and U+2184 LATIN SMALL LETTER REVERSED C are normal Latin letters and should match the other Latin letters instead of the Roman numerals.

The serifs on U+2C75 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER HALF H and U+2C76 LATIN SMALL LETTER HALF H are unwarranted.

U+A724 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER EGYPTOLOGICAL AIN and U+A725 LATIN SMALL LETTER EGYPTOLOGICAL AIN needn’t be stretched to reach the baseline.

The components of the vowel ligatures U+A732 through U+A737, U+A74E, and U+A74F should be closer together.

U+A779 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER INSULAR D should be more circular.

U+A78E LATIN SMALL LETTER L WITH RETROFLEX HOOK AND BELT should have a descender and its belt should match U+026C LATIN SMALL LETTER L WITH BELT.

U+A78F LATIN LETTER SINOLOGICAL DOT should be at ex-height.

The descenders of U+A790–A791 LATIN CAPITAL/SMALL LETTER N WITH DESCENDER needn’t be so far from the base letter.

U+A7B3 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER CHI should match U+AB53 LATIN SMALL LETTER CHI in its serifs; i.e. it shouldn’t have any.

To make U+AB35 LATIN SMALL LETTER LENIS F look distinct from U+0066 LATIN SMALL LETTER F, it is suggested that the former be truncated a bit above the baseline.

U+AB45 LATIN SMALL LETTER STIRRUP R should be taller.

U+AB46 LATIN LETTER SMALL CAPITAL R WITH RIGHT LEG should not look like a capital letter.

U+AB4D LATIN SMALL LETTER BASELINE ESH should be derived from U+0283 LATIN SMALL LETTER ESH.

U+AB4E LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH SHORT RIGHT LEG should not have a tall left leg.

The serifs on U+AB60 LATIN SMALL LETTER SAKHA YAT and U+AB61 LATIN SMALL LETTER IOTIFIED E are unnecessary (cf. U+0465 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER IOTIFIED E) and obscure the underlying shape of the characters.

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025A:000000000000344D1A28484848300000
025D:000000000000344D0A30080848300000
0267:0000003840405C62424242424242020C
0278:0000000808083E4949494949493E0808
027F:0000000000003C424202020202020202
028E:000000003C4040586442424242420000
0298:000000003C4242425A5A4242423C0000
02A5:0000001010103F5152545852553E0400
02A6:00000000404046F948444241413E0000
02AA:000000602020262928242221217E0000
02AB:0000006020203E2224242828307E0000
02B3:00005C62424040404040000000000000
02B4:0000020202020242463A000000000000
02B5:00000404040404444C34030000000000
02B6:0000424242447C42427C000000000000
02B7:00004149494949494936000000000000
02B8:00004242424242261A02023C00000000
02D1:00000000000000381000000000000000
02E0:00004242422424181824241800000000
02E2:00003C4240300C02423C000000000000
02E3:00004242241818244242000000000000
02EE:00000000662222440000000000000000
02F4:00000000000000300C00000000000000
02F5:00000000000000CC2200000000000000
02F6:00000000000000334400000000000000
0300:300C0000000000000000000000000000
0301:0C300000000000000000000000000000
030B:33440000000000000000000000000000
030F:CC220000000000000000000000000000
0313:00180810000000000000000000000000
0314:00181008000000000000000000000000
1D59:000000007F020101017E000000000000
1DC0:24100824000000000000000000000000
1DC1:24081024000000000000000000000000
1DCC:00E21C00000000000000000000000000
1DCF:00000000000000000000001020380810
1DD0:0000000000000000000000000000113F
2071:000010100030101010107C0000000000
207F:00005C62424242424242000000000000
212A:00000000424448506060504844420000
2180:000000003E49494949494949493E0000
2183:000000003C42420202020242423C0000
2184:0000000000003C4202020202423C0000
2C75:00000000202020203C20202020200000
2C76:0000000000002020203C202020200000
A724:00000000387C604040403C0000000000
A725:000000000000387C604040403C000000
A732:00000000000000000C6012901290210821083FF8210821082108210800000000
A733:0000000000000000000000001EF0210801081FF82108210823181DE800000000
A734:00000000000000000CF013081308210821083F0821082108210820F000000000
A735:0000000000000000000000001EF0210801081F082108210823081CF000000000
A736:00000000000000000C0812081208210821083F0821082108210820F000000000
A737:0000000000000000000000001E08210801081F082108210823181CE800000000
A74E:00000000000000001EF0210821082108210821082108210821081EF000000000
A74F:0000000000000000000000001EF02108210821082108210821081EF000000000
A765:00000040F0405C6242424242625C4040
A767:0000004040405C6242424242625CF040
A779:00000000FC22424242424242423C0000
A78E:00000018080838483E08080808080600
A78F:0000000000183C3C1800000000000000
A790:0000000044646454544C4C4444460202
A791:00000000000058644444444444460202
A7B3:00000000424224241818182424424200
A7F8:000042FF427E42424242000000000000
A7F9:00003649494F48484936000000000000
AB35:0000000C1010107C1010101010000000
AB45:00000000000010101038444444440000
AB46:0000000000007C42427C505048480906
AB4D:0000000C101010101010101010600000
AB4E:000000000000404040424242463A0000
AB50:000000000000928282929292926E0000
AB5D:0000701014127C9050107C0000000000
AB5E:00003808083A4C0808083E0000000000
AB5F:000042A2A2222222261A000000000000
AB60:0000000000007050505C5252525C0000
AB61:0000000000004C52527E5050524C0000

David Corbett <dscorbett>

 

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