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task #15844: Update/Translation of philosophy/copyright-and-globalization.html

Submitter:  Wensheng XIE <wxie>
Submitted:  Sat 19 Dec 2020 08:01:29 AM UTC
   
 
Category:  None Should Start On:  Fri 18 Dec 2020 04:00:00 PM UTC
Should be Finished on:  Fri 18 Jun 2021 04:00:00 PM UTC Priority:  5 - Normal
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Thu 01 Jul 2021 02:26:57 AM UTC, comment #7: 

Hi, Hagb:


Thanks for reviewing.
The improvement and corrections have been implemented in new version.

File is committed to www and www-zh-cn.

I forget to add the reviewer information. Please add your information.

Wensheng XIE <wxie>
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Sun 13 Jun 2021 07:38:57 AM UTC, comment #6: 

8. 补充

> To enforce it requires surveillance &mdash; an intrusion &mdash; and harsh punishments, and we are seeing these being enacted into law in the U.S. and other countries.
> 这样执法就需要监控&mdash;&mdash;一种侵犯&mdash;&mdash;和 粗鲁 的惩罚,我们已经看到这些措施正在美国等国家的法律里开始加强。

这里“harsh”可能译为“严酷”更合乎原意。

郭俊余 <hagb>
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Sun 13 Jun 2021 07:34:14 AM UTC, comment #5: 

1.

> I began getting invited to give speeches [at which] &hellip; people started asking me
> 我开始获得去演讲的邀请 [演讲中] &hellip;人们开始问我

译文中的省略号需要有六个点(&hellip;&hellip;)


2.

> And, of course, people asked silly questions like,
> 当然,人们也会问一些 弱智 的问题,

这里我(个人)感觉“弱智”似乎不太适合在演讲中出现。


3.

> (前文)We'll see agribusiness companies trying to stop people from copying food, and that will become a major political issue, if that technological capability will ever exist.  I don't know if it will; it's just speculation at this point.
> But for other kinds of information, you can raise the issue because any kind of information that can be stored on a computer ...
> 但是对其他类型的信息,你可以提问题,因为计算机可以存储任何信息

这里感觉中文中的“提问题”并没有表达出原文“raise the issue”原文的意思。意译为“提出这个问题”或者“提出这样的问题”如何?


4.

> I'm talking about the rights you should have if you get copies of published things where there's no attempt to keep them secret.
> 我要讨论的是你对公开可得信息的权利,这些信息并没有保密的必要。

这里和原文意思有点出入(虽然我觉得译文读起来没什么问题),原文说的是“不试图保密的公开信息”,“公开信息”的范围被(限定性定语从句)限制在“不试图保密”的范围里(而非阐述保密的必要与否)。


5.

> It was a lot of work to set the type and much less work to make many identical copies of the page.
> 设置种类 需要大量劳动,但是复制同一类型的书页又轻而易举。

从上下文看,此处“set the type”应该是印刷术中的“制版”。


6.

> Computer networks and digital information technology are bringing us back to a world more like the ancient world where anyone who can read and use the information can also copy it and can make copies about as easily as anyone else could make them.
> 计算机网络和数字信息技术又把我们带回到人人都可以阅读、使用和复制信息的古代,每个人复制信息 都非常容易

感觉这里译成“都一样容易”好像更精确。


7.

> Now, for practical purposes, it's a restriction on a public for the sake of publishers.  Copyright used to be fairly painless and uncontroversial.
> 版权法过去并无痛点,也 不矛盾

感觉这里可能译成“没有争议”更精确。


8.

> To enforce it requires surveillance &mdash; an intrusion &mdash; and harsh punishments, and we are seeing these being enacted into law in the U.S. and other countries.
> 这样执法就需要监控&mdash;&mdash;一种侵犯&mdash;&mdash;和粗鲁的惩罚,我们已经看到这些措施正在美国等国家的法律里 开始加强

原文表达的应该是“正在被写进法律”。


9.

> Then they introduce e-books and gradually get everybody to switch from printed books to e-books and eventually the result is, readers have lost these freedoms without ever having an instant when those freedoms were being taken away and when they might have fought back to retain them .
> 然后,他们引入电子书,并逐步让人们从看纸质书转到看电子书,最终的结果是 读者在不知道自己被剥夺了权利之前,这些权利就没有了,根本没有机会去反击

原文表达的应该是在“读者甚至在还不知道自己的自由被剥夺,还没有反击以保留这些自由的情况下,就被失去了这些自由”,似乎没有表达“没有机会反击”。


10.

> Even making a link to a site where this information is legally available outside the U.S. has been prohibited.
> 即使 访问一个在美国以外的合法链接 也被禁止,只因该网站含有关于 DVD 格式的秘密。

原文表达的是不是“链接到一个在美国以外合法的网站”?(比如某美国人的博客含有一个到这些网站的链接)


11.

> But meanwhile Australia has passed a similar law and Europe is almost finished adopting one; so the plan is to leave no place on earth where this information can be made available to people.
> 是与此同时,澳大利亚通过了类似的法律,欧洲也几乎完成了一样的事;*所以大家看到的是* 地球上不再有地方可以向人们公开 DVD 的格式。

原文中的表达看起来是电影公司的“计划中的事情”,而不是既定事实。


12.

> (前文)What will happen with that particular battle, we don't know.  But meanwhile Australia has passed a similar law and Europe is almost finished adopting one; so the plan is to leave no place on earth where this information can be made available to people.
> (前文)是与此同时,澳大利亚通过了类似的法律,欧洲也几乎完成了一样的事;所以大家看到的是地球上不再有地方可以向人们公开 DVD 的格式。
> But the U.S.  remains the world leader in trying to stop the public from distributing information that's been published.
> 美国在阻止人们分发已经公开的信息方面还是世界的领头羊。

这里“but”需不需要在译文中体现?感觉没有一个表示转折的连接词,读起来还是有点不太顺。


13.

> Well, you may have seen the ads on TV, the ads in the Boston subways asking people to rat on their co-workers to the information police, which officially is called the Software Publishers Association.
> 你可能在电视上看过广告,波士顿地铁的广告要人们向信息警察报告同事的消息,信息警察的正式名称是 软件出版商联盟

在搜索引擎中查了查,这个“Software Publishers Association”在大陆简体中文下常见译名似乎是“软件出版商协会”,此外这种不常见的名字是不是可以附上英文原文。


14.

> thus no work will ever go into the public domain again.
> 没有作品会成为 有领域的作品

此处似为错别字。


15.

> If you look at globalization, what you see is that it's carried out by a number of policies which are done in the name of economic efficiency or so-called free-trade treaties, which really are designed to give business power over laws and policies.
> 如果你看一下全球化,你会看到它是由一组政策形成的。这些政策以经济效率的名义或 称之为 自由贸易协定,而实际上就是通过法律和政策给予商业更多的权力。
> (后文) They're not really about free trade.

译为“所谓”和“称之为”感情色彩不同,前者带有不认同的感情色彩,后者更中性一些。这里 RMS 的感情色彩应该是“所谓”中的不认同。


16.

> They're about a transfer of power: removing the power to decide laws from the citizens of any country who might conceivably consider their own interests and giving that power to businesses who will not consider the interests of those citizens.
> 他们是在转移权力:把公民决定法律的权力转移给商业,公民会考虑自身的利益,而商业不会考虑公民的利益。

这里加粗部分的“of any country”是不是保留下来会更好,我感觉这是在强调它和全球化的关系。


17.

> For instance, <abbr title="North American Free Trade Agreement">NAFTA</abbr> actually contains provisions, I believe, allowing companies to sue another government to get rid of a law that they believe is interfering with their profits in the other country.
> 例如,我确信,<abbr title="北美自由贸易协议">NAFTA</abbr> 实际上有条款允许公司控告一个政府通过法律干扰 们在其他国家的利润。

这里“they”所指的是公司,应用“它们”。

郭俊余 <hagb>
Group Member
Tue 01 Jun 2021 12:06:55 AM UTC, comment #4: 

Hi, wxie:

抱歉,最近实在事情有点多,容我把完成日期往后再延一些。

祝好
Hagb

郭俊余 <hagb>
Group Member
Mon 12 Apr 2021 05:19:47 AM UTC, comment #3: 

Thank you, hagb.

I just corrected a format error: add </i> for the first paragraph.

version updated: 1.2

Wensheng XIE <wxie>
Group administrator
Sat 10 Apr 2021 09:46:42 AM UTC, comment #2: 

Hi, wxie:

Yes of course.

best regards,
Hagb

郭俊余 <hagb>
Group Member
Fri 09 Apr 2021 10:46:28 AM UTC, comment #1: 

Hi,hagb:

The file is translated. Could you please help review?

best regards,
wxie

Wensheng XIE <wxie>
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