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bug #54871: Denemo 2.1 and 2.2 all windows disappear on Mac

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Submitted on:  Sun 21 Oct 2018 03:17:04 AM UTC  
 
Category:  None Severity:  3 - Normal
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Fri 21 Dec 2018 04:12:19 PM UTC, comment #4: 

Thanks for the reply Richard (Nov. 26th one I did not notice until today), those were very useful tips for me.

As far as a workaround to the posters original comment, I have noticed that the pop-up selection menu is not showing in some MacOS installations, but it was still available via the keyboard input (it is just hiding from view). So if one wants to insert a "ff" (fortissimo), then, after pressing the 'fp' (dynamics button), they will need to press the down button once, then  pressing the tab button will bring the input to the 'OK' button selected, then the user could hit enter and their selected dynamic instruction would be revealed. The same thing could be applied to 'Allegro' tempo function. One just needs to have a visual of what these pop-ups normally look like, and they can navigate by key-press at that point.
It gives a feeling of what it might be like to navigate the world blind.


Anonymous
Fri 07 Dec 2018 10:32:50 PM UTC, comment #3: 

I hear ya. For me, even logging out and back in doesn't bring back the window (Mac OSX, El Capitan in this case) and was too frustrating, despite the other advantages that set-up had to offer (such as using microphone to speak commands, that would could have been fun).

I would highly recommend installing Windows on that system (using BootCamp), if you have the extra space... and time.
Then you could set-up a nice work-flow with Denemo and Frescobaldi (copy the notes to Frescobaldi and change the language, and, if need be, change the notes from absolute pitch to relative pitch) and a soundfont, by sending midi to either something free like CoolSoft VirtualMidiSynth, or even better would be something like Synthfont2 if possible(~$18, worth it).

For my set-up, Denemo is great for getting the idea down efficiently, and Frescobaldi is good for working with the "guts" of the Lilypond code (In Denemo: View menu -> Lilypond.)

It seems like a bit much at times, and some people would prefer not to have to learn much Lilypond in addition, which is understandable. Probably learning just 10-20% of Lilypond syntax would be enough to work with a basic score.


Anonymous
Mon 26 Nov 2018 08:50:06 AM UTC, comment #2: 

This bit is easier to do than this:
"In Denemo again, go to View -> Lilypond, highlight all of the text (make sure to highlight all the way down) and copy using keyboard shortcut Ctrl + C. Then Paste that data into the Frescobaldi editor and make necessary changes, including where you wanted the dynamics markings etc to appear."
Instead create a shortcut to File->Export->Quick Export LilyPond
which exports the LilyPond to a fixed file name generated from your Denemo score filename)
then with Frescobaldi open on that file (and the auto-reload set) you will see the LilyPond there straight away.

This bit is roundabout too:
"comment (Object Menu -> Notes/Rests -> Comment | then make a keyboard shortcut for it in the command center) in the places where you want something like forte/piano to show up on what note."
If you wanted a shortcut for Notes/Rests -> Comment just hover over it and press a key that is not used for another shortcut - done!
But why put a comment in? Why not put the LilyPond syntax in directly - Directives->Insert LilyPond and type in <>\f
Or, move the cursor to the correct place and then, in the LilyPond view right-click and choose Insert LilyPond Text and type in <>\f there.
As I commented somewhere, once you have one marking you can always make a snippet of it and then insert it anywhere with Ctrl-Space or right click on it and choose create button for clone to make a palette button that inserts a clone of it at the cursor...

Richard Shann <rshann>
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Mon 26 Nov 2018 06:46:07 AM UTC, comment #1: 

I've come into the same problem, on MacOS El Capitan.

One possible work around, would be to comment (Object Menu -> Notes/Rests -> Comment | then make a keyboard shortcut for it in the command center) in the places where you want something like forte/piano to show up on what note. You could skip this first step and just do the second draft editing in the next step.

Next, download and install Frescobaldi (preferably on a Windows system if possible, because then you can use Coolsoft VirtualMidiSynth with a Soundfont to play your music and be able to hear some of the articulations that you entered).

In Denemo again, go to View -> Lilypond, highlight all of the text (make sure to highlight all the way down) and copy using keyboard shortcut Ctrl + C. Then Paste that data into the Frescobaldi editor and make necessary changes, including where you wanted the dynamics markings etc to appear. 

(Sorry, I wish I had something better but still thought this might be worth mentioning)

Also someone mentioned installing the WineBottle app on the Mac and then Windows executable Denemo install. This works, but the start up time for Denemo as a Wine app is very long and painful;)

Anonymous
Sun 21 Oct 2018 03:17:04 AM UTC, original submission:  

It looks like it crashes but I guess it doesn't: all windows disappear when I click on the "Allegro" button (or "fp", probably others). I reran it from the command line to see if there was any error message but there is nothing extra showing at the moment of windows' disappearance, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9urDYatk-8

Seems like the windows can be recovered by simply attempting to log out. But then clicking on any of the subsequent popups generated by "Allegro" does the same thing, so logging out again, etc. etc. It's TERRIBLY tedious. And, of course, when I quit Denemo, the logout does proceed THEN.

It must be something stupid, what is it? I'm on High Sierra 10.13.4.

Anonymous

 

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