bugFree UCS Outline Fonts - Bugs: bug #42399, Alternative shape for capital Q


bug #42399: Alternative shape for capital Q

Submitted by:  Rosella Capriotti <rosy58>
Submitted on:  Wed 21 May 2014 09:58:36 AM UTC  
Category:  individual character(s) Severity:  3 - Normal
Item Group:  character substitution issue Status:  Won't fix
Privacy:  Public Assigned to:  Steve White <Stevan_White>
Open/Closed:  Open Release:  2012-05-03

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Tue 03 Feb 2015 09:30:44 PM UTC, comment #4:


Rosella, we have in no way produced a clone of (MS) TNR. The Latin range of FreeSerif has a separate lineage from the MS font, deriving from the Times faces (as mentioned in the document Hsing-yen posted.)

Our goal is a useful font that works with as many languages as possible. The general direction, especially of Serif, is newsprint. Text printed in this font must be in no way surprising: it must be easy to read. Clarity is paramount.

The alternative styles of Greek that we worked so hard on had to do with traditions and with ease of reading. You and I were balancing traditional typographic styles against mathematical applications. These are practical concerns.

I get your idea. It's not a bad idea at all. I just don't see it as a direction for this font at this time.
(As always, don't let this discourage you from making other recommendations!!!!)

Steve White <Stevan_White>
Project AdministratorIn charge of this item.
Tue 03 Feb 2015 10:05:07 AM UTC, comment #3:

Hi Rosella,

The first picture of this web page have an example of Times styles, this can be seen as proof.


Hsing-yen He <hammerandsickle>
Fri 30 May 2014 09:29:10 AM UTC, comment #2:

Hello Steve!

I thought your policy wasn't to create a Times clone. Indeed, as far as I can tell you've departed significantly from it not only in the case of Serbian glyphs but most significantly by throughly redrawing the Greek range and providing Greek-specific glyphs as opposed to math symbols.

So, the bottom line is that maybe you should take this variant into consideration.


Rosella Capriotti <rosy58>
Sun 25 May 2014 07:41:20 AM UTC, comment #1:

Hi Rosella!

Regional or linguistic variants make sense, and Unicode also coded variants for Math Alphabetic Symbols, where the script and the calligraphic Q have the form you mention -- you'll find these supported in FreeSerif.

But this form is purely stylistic alternative, some styles have one form some another, and I think the "2" form never appears in fonts of Times-Helvetica-Courier styles.

So Rosella, I don't think this one will go in.

But keep the ideas coming!

Steve White <Stevan_White>
Project AdministratorIn charge of this item.
Wed 21 May 2014 09:58:36 AM UTC, original submission:

Hello Steve,

Have you ever thought about changing the appearance/implementing a variant for capital Q? What you have now looks very dull, there are many good-looking alternative shapes, with swashes and so on. Also italic Q looks like 2 in the best typographic tradition.


Rosella Capriotti <rosy58>


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