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bug #22996: Greek extended: prosgegrammeni placed at right of letter

Submitted by:  Steve White <Stevan_White>
Submitted on:  Sun 20 Apr 2008 11:50:30 AM UTC  
 
Category: character rangeSeverity: 3 - Normal
Item Group: glyph(s) incorrectStatus: Non-bug
Privacy: PublicAssigned to: Steve White <Stevan_White>
Open/Closed: ClosedRelease: 2006-01-26

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Sat 21 Jun 2008 11:29:58 AM UTC, comment #2:

Further to this:

In Mono, because these glyphs were far outside their fixed-width bounding boxes, I chose to put the prosgegrammeni under their main glyphs.

Steve White <Stevan_White>
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Sat 14 Jun 2008 01:43:34 PM UTC, comment #1:

In a private interchange, Alexey Kryukov explained to me that this is a stylistic issue.

In some fonts, the prosgegrammeni is placed below the main glyph. This has the advantage of making the glyph much narrower.

See the discussion by Yannis Haralambous
http://omega.enstb.org/yannis/pdf/boston99.pdf
He says the position beside the letter is just one of several typesetting traditions in Greece.

Nonetheless, I prefer to follow the Unicode samples. FreeFont is meant to be a Unicode font, so unless there is a pressing reason to do otherwise, I'll follow the Unicode samples.

Steve White <Stevan_White>
Project AdministratorIn charge of this item.
Sun 20 Apr 2008 11:50:30 AM UTC, original submission:

Greek capital letters with prosgegrammeni (U+1F88-1F8F, U+1F98-1F9F, U+1FA8-1FAF, U+1FBC, U+1FDC, U+1FFC) have prosgegrammeni incorrectly placed at the right side of the letter instead of at below, in obligue variant of the font.

I disagree with assessment.

I think prosgegrammeni goes after the letter, as opposed to ypogegrammeni, which goes under the letter.

See the Unicode samples
http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F00.pdf
also
http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/unicode/unicode_gkbkgd.html

It's a big problem to make such wide characters fit in Mono.

My solution is to get the parts as close as can be reasonably done, and let tails and serifs hang out of the bounding box. (I hope they can still be understood if they are clipped.

Note: Courier New puts prosgegrammeni under the base glyph; this may be a measure to reduce the width of the glyph.

I don't know if it is permitted typographically to put prosgegrammeni under the letter. Please let me know if it is; I would use this information.

Steve White <Stevan_White>
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