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task #6121: Submission of gimel

Submitter:  Haakon Alvheim <haak>
Submitted:  Mon 20 Nov 2006 04:39:17 AM UTC
   
 
Should Start On:  Mon 20 Nov 2006 12:00:00 AM UTC Should be Finished on:  Thu 30 Nov 2006 12:00:00 AM UTC
Category:  Project Approval Priority:  * 5 - Normal
Status:  Cancelled Privacy:  Public
Assigned to:  sp Open/Closed:  Closed
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Sun 21 Jan 2007 07:30:20 PM UTC, comment #3: 

Hi Haakon,

We did not get a response from you, so we deleted your project from the pending queue.

If you would still like to have your project hosted at Savannah, please register it again.

The re-registration URL found in our acknowledgment of your earlier registration will direct you to the proper location where you can re-register your project.

Regards,

Stephan

Stephan Peijnik <sp>
Sun 14 Jan 2007 06:08:36 PM UTC, comment #2: 

Hi Haakon,

I am waiting for an answer from you.

If within one week I still do not get a reply, I will remove your project. You will still be able to register it again once you have the time to deal with the registration issues.

Are you still willing to host your project at Savannah? If not, please tell us - we don't bite, and it will make us gain time.

Regards,

Stephan

Stephan Peijnik <sp>
Sun 07 Jan 2007 08:04:58 PM UTC, comment #1: 

Hello Haakon,

First of all I would like to say I am sorry this took so long, but finally I have picked up your project submission.

Now about the 'GPLv2 or later' issue: The main reason why we would like people to use the 'or later' statement is that, if your code is copyrighted by several persons and the GPLv3 is released you would need to get permission by all those people to possibly change the license.

More information on this topic can be found at https://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/GnuGplTwoOrLater. Please take some time to read that comment.

As for the 'hosting without sourcecode': We usually do some basic legal checks on your code when handling submissions. In special cases however, we do accept projects for hosting and do these legal checks later on. Could you please let us know why you would need the project accepted prior to having any sourcecode ready?

Again, I am sorry this took so long. If you do not want your project hosted on Savannah anymore, please let us know.


Regards,

Stephan

Stephan Peijnik <sp>
Mon 20 Nov 2006 04:39:17 AM UTC, original submission:  

A new project has been registered at Savannah
This project account will remain inactive until a site admin approves or discards the registration.


Registration Administration


While this item will be useful to track the registration process, approving or discarding the registration must be done using the specific "Group Administration" page, accessible only to site administrators, effectively logged as site administrators (superuser):

  <https://savannah.gnu.org/siteadmin/groupedit.php?group_id=8926>


Registration Details


  • Name: gimel
  • System Name:  gimel
  • Type: non-GNU software &amp; documentation
  • License: Other (GNU General Public License V2

The reason I did not choose "GNU General Public License V2 or later" is that I would like the opportunity to review the final version of GPLv3 (and later) before stating that those licenses apply to my project.

I'm not sure why you insist on "GPL v2 or later". For one, you will not have to contact me about switching to GPL v3 -- I will take that responsibility myself, if I decide to do so. Also, you accept other "GPL-compatible" but non-GPL licenses. GPL v2 will always be "GPL-compatible", even if GPL v3, 4, etc. are "better", so shouldn't you continue to accept a project which is GPL v2, even after v3 is finalized?

If you accept the X11 license, LGPL, Berkeley DB license, etc. because they are "compatible" with the GPL, it makes sense that you would also accept a project distributed under the GPL v2 with no further qualifications of "or later".

I cannot in good conscience release under a license which has not even been written (finalized) yet. When the time comes, I will make the decision.
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Description:  The purpose of this project is to design, document, and implement the gimel programming language. (Note: The name of the language is the Phoenician letter gimel, not the English word for the letter, but the English word will be used here.) The project currently has no documents or code.

The language will be designed by me and possibly other interested hackers. All documents and code produced and released as part of this Savannah project will either have a free license policy or fall under the public domain.

Some of the design goals and philosophies of gimel are outlined below, although any of these could change during the design process and many of them are inprecise because this is a work in progress:

o The syntax is to be internally consistent and logical whenever possible.
o A language should not have limitations purely for the sake of having limitations.
o It is very important to allow the programmer the maximum degree of flexibility in programming.
o A language should be beautiful.

Some of the somewhat more specific goals for gimel follow:
o Allow object-oriented programming without limiting the programmer any more than the programmer wishes to limit himself.
o Implement 'generic' classes, functions, etc., without the programmer having to explicitly specify types (whenever possible).
o Static type checking whenever possible.
o A compiled-in debugging system which can be enabled or disabled at compile-time (similar to C's assert, but much more.)
o Programmer-defineable operators.
o Efficient string operations, including support for Unicode and other encodings.
o All entities (functions, variables, constants, ...) can be defined in namespaces, and entities in namespaces can be imported or used qualified.
o Parameter passing by value, by reference, or by name/expression, allowing the programmer to implement, for example, short-circuit operators like && and ||.

Regarding a link to source code, there is absolutely no source code at this time, as I said when I started the registration for this project. This project is in planning phases and no code has
been written for a compiler, etc. yet. It was my understanding that Savannah does not deny a project solely because it does not yet have source code to release, but please tell me if I am incorrect and if I cannot host my project here until I have written code.



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