bugFree UCS Outline Fonts - Bugs: bug #39551, Greek kerning


bug #39551: Greek kerning

Submitted by:  Rosella Capriotti <rosy58>
Submitted on:  Mon 22 Jul 2013 07:14:41 PM UTC  
Category: individual character(s)Severity: 3 - Normal
Item Group: letter positioning poorStatus: Fix posted
Privacy: PublicAssigned to: Steve White <Stevan_White>
Open/Closed: OpenRelease: 2012-05-03

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Sun 22 Sep 2013 07:12:36 PM UTC, comment #9:

Hello Steve!

I know you still have to solve the double kerning issue, but I really had to point out this:


(file #29194)

Rosella Capriotti <rosy58>
Tue 20 Aug 2013 10:16:00 PM UTC, comment #8:

The space before and after Capital ALPHA looks a bit too wide to me.

(file #28888)

Rosella Capriotti <rosy58>
Sun 04 Aug 2013 10:08:49 PM UTC, comment #7:

In the word ῥητοροδιδάσκαλοι, isn't the first DELTA too close to the preceding OMICRON? Or is the second DELTA too far from ALPHA?

Let me know what you think about it.

(file #28754)

Rosella Capriotti <rosy58>
Tue 30 Jul 2013 10:21:25 PM UTC, comment #6:

OK, I know that, I was just wondering whether it's in your plans, that's it! No need to be in a hurry, you always think I'm asking fir hot fixes but it's not the case! :)

By the way, I don't find any particular flaws in the Greek range, you're been too harsh with yourself!

Rosella Capriotti <rosy58>
Tue 30 Jul 2013 09:55:37 PM UTC, comment #5:

Bump I already kerned it, very roughly.

I explained to you offline why it hadn't been done. Again: it takes time, nobody had asked for it, and my proofs didn't show many glaring problems (and, frankly, the Greek range of FreeSerif isn't that great anyway, especially the bold...)

To do kerning right takes me often several nights per face, and then I still find peculiarities.

And again, there is a serious kerning bug.

So as I said before, it would be best to hold off kerning for a while, until we understand what is causing the kerning-doubling bug. It's really impossible to do good kerning under the present circumstances.

Steve White <Stevan_White>
Project AdministratorIn charge of this item.
Tue 30 Jul 2013 06:53:17 PM UTC, comment #4:

Bump! Do you plan to kern bold Greek? I don't mean to urge you to hurry up, I just want to know. Indeed, it's a big handicap, why didn't you do that in the first place? I mean, why Cyrillic bold is kerned and Greek bold not? Which has been your criterion?

Rosella Capriotti <rosy58>
Tue 23 Jul 2013 06:02:57 PM UTC, comment #3:

May I ask you why it is not so and if you plan to kern it in the future?

Rosella Capriotti <rosy58>
Tue 23 Jul 2013 04:56:09 PM UTC, comment #2:


Yes, in bold, I reduced the right-side bearing of kappa, and both side bearings of gamma.

Note: currently Greek is not kerned in FreeSerifBold.

Steve White <Stevan_White>
Project AdministratorIn charge of this item.
Mon 22 Jul 2013 07:16:17 PM UTC, comment #1:

Also in the same image, to the left, there's too much space for me between GAMMA and OMICRON.

Rosella Capriotti <rosy58>
Mon 22 Jul 2013 07:14:41 PM UTC, original submission:

The distance between KAPPA and DELTA doesn't convince me at all, it's too wide for me.

Rosella Capriotti <rosy58>


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file #28888:  ΒΙΟΓΡΑΦΙΕΣ.png added by rosy58 (281kB - image/png)
file #28643:  ἔκδοση.png added by rosy58 (369kB - image/png)


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    Date Changed By Updated Field Previous Value => Replaced By
    Sun 22 Sep 2013 07:12:36 PM UTCrosy58Attached File-=>Added Polytonic Greek Kerning Flaws.png, #29194
    Tue 20 Aug 2013 10:16:00 PM UTCrosy58Attached File-=>Added ΒΙΟΓΡΑΦΙΕΣ.png, #28888
    Sun 04 Aug 2013 10:08:49 PM UTCrosy58Attached File-=>Added ῥητοροδιδάσκαλοι.png, #28754
    Tue 23 Jul 2013 04:56:09 PM UTCStevan_WhiteCategoryoverall font problem=>individual character(s)
      StatusNone=>Fix posted
      Assigned toNone=>Stevan_White
    Mon 22 Jul 2013 07:14:41 PM UTCrosy58Attached File-=>Added ἔκδοση.png, #28643

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