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bug #45205: Combining diacriticals for Symbol placed incorrect with some symbols

Submitted by:  Hsing-yen He <hammerandsickle>
Submitted on:  Thu 28 May 2015 05:52:18 PM UTC  
Category:  overall font problem Severity:  3 - Normal
Item Group:  letter positioning poor Status:  Fix posted
Privacy:  Public Assigned to:  Steve White <Stevan_White>
Open/Closed:  Open Release:  development

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Fri 14 Aug 2015 02:53:53 PM UTC, comment #13:

создал тему

Alexey M-ov <teorks>
Sun 09 Aug 2015 08:16:43 AM UTC, comment #12:

Hello again Alexey,

In your Screenshot2, only two pairs of letters are marked red (by which I guess you mean something is wrong) -- these are E and A with circumflex and accent-ague.

I know of ony one language that uses this extreme combination of marks: Vietnamese. It is a common typographic style in that language to place the accent to the right of the circumflex...so they won't go too far above the line of type of course. FreeSerif follows this tradition.

If you are aware of another application for this combination, let us please discuss that.

I don't know what the green/white distinction means in your image.


Steve White <Stevan_White>
Project AdministratorIn charge of this item.
Sat 08 Aug 2015 11:22:24 PM UTC, comment #11:

Hello Alexey,

To create a new bug report, under the menu near the top of the page, under "Bugs", there is "Submit new".

Please provide images of what you see as a problem, and also original documents, so I can try them myself.

Be aware that MS Word is not particularly good at handling modern font technology. Also be aware that font installation in Windows can go wrong. Double-check for extra copies:
dir C:\Windows\Fonts\Free*


Steve White <Stevan_White>
Project AdministratorIn charge of this item.
Sat 08 Aug 2015 07:52:33 PM UTC, comment #10:

(Я не понимаю, как создать отдельную тему: вижу только кнопку для комментария.) Ваша версия действительно лучше моего оригинала (на скриншоте: Normal $Revision: 1.548 $ и Italic 0412.2268), но основная проблема там не решена до конца, как я вижу у себя в Word'е. Спасибо за ответ.

(file #34609)

Alexey M-ov <teorks>
Sat 08 Aug 2015 05:19:01 PM UTC, comment #9:


First, this but isn't about placement of general accent marks, but about "symbol" diacriticals, specifically the ones for "ten thousand" etc.

Second, you didn't say what version of the font you are referring to. I will send you a link to a recent build.

Please send a separate bug report if you continue to see problems.

Steve White <Stevan_White>
Project AdministratorIn charge of this item.
Sat 08 Aug 2015 04:00:10 PM UTC, comment #8:

(achtung! Russian!) Имею проблемы с диакритиками. В FreeSerif и Sans не работают якоря (anchors) для всей кириллицы и некоторых других отделов, хотя якоря в глифах расставлены. В FontForge сочетания отображаются якобы корректно, но не в Word и LibreOffice. Чтобы они заработали, я добавил в кириллицу якоря как в латинице (25, вместо 20), но это не помогло. Тогда дописал еще к latn{dflt} TRK и LTH – и кириллица и некоторые знаки из латиницы исправились (!), но не все. Как настроить шрифты, чтобы якоря работали везде? Если можно.

(file #34598)

Alexey M-ov <teorks>
Mon 13 Jul 2015 11:33:27 AM UTC, comment #7:

This issue was resolved in FreeSerif, but it's still there in FreeSans, I think this issue should also be fixed in FreeSans.

Hsing-yen He <hammerandsickle>
Fri 05 Jun 2015 10:43:31 AM UTC, comment #6:

When I chose oblique and bold oblique faces, the Cyrillic ten-millons sign is also slanted, looks different from hundred-thousands and millions sign.

Hsing-yen He <hammerandsickle>
Fri 05 Jun 2015 05:00:46 AM UTC, comment #5:


It seems to me that they works fine, except Cyrillic ten-millons sign.

Hsing-yen He <hammerandsickle>
Thu 04 Jun 2015 10:51:43 PM UTC, comment #4:


Have a look at the latest build.

(file #34161)

Steve White <Stevan_White>
Project AdministratorIn charge of this item.
Thu 04 Jun 2015 03:02:10 PM UTC, comment #3:

I also found some Cyrillic letters with combining enclosing circle looks not proper. They're stand for ten-thousands numeral in the Church Slavonic text: А⃝ , В⃝ , Г⃝ , Д⃝ , Є⃝ , Е⃝ , Ѕ⃝ , З⃝ , И⃝ , Н⃝ , Ѳ⃝


Hsing-yen He <hammerandsickle>
Wed 03 Jun 2015 09:09:23 AM UTC, comment #2:


I'm remind of some people have uploaded images in Wikimedia Commons, with hammer-and-sickle sign and the circle-slash.


Hsing-yen He <hammerandsickle>
Thu 28 May 2015 07:29:34 PM UTC, comment #1:

Are you referring to the circle-slash being applied to the hammer-and-sickle?

I have no idea what "correct" means in this case. I had not dreamed anybody would ever apply the circle-slash to that symbol.

Good grief. I'll think about it.

Steve White <Stevan_White>
Project AdministratorIn charge of this item.
Thu 28 May 2015 05:52:18 PM UTC, original submission:

Hi Steve,

When I reviewed file #34070, I found Combining diacritical for Symbol placed incorrect with a Miscellaneous Symbol, then I feel these combining diacriticals also placed incorrect with other symbols, could you please fix it?

Hsing-yen He <hammerandsickle>


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file #34609:  Screenshot_2.jpg added by teorks (83KiB - image/jpeg)
file #34598:  Screenshot_1.jpg added by teorks (88KiB - image/jpeg)
file #34161:  tenthousand.html added by Stevan_White (2KiB - text/html)


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    2015-08-08 teorks Attached File- => Added Screenshot_2.jpg, #34609
    2015-08-08 teorks Attached File- => Added Screenshot_1.jpg, #34598
    2015-06-04 Stevan_White Attached File- => Added tenthousand.html, #34161
        StatusNeed info => Fix posted
    2015-05-28 Stevan_White Item Groupbulk text appearance poor => letter positioning poor
    2015-05-28 Stevan_White StatusNone => Need info
        Assigned toNone => Stevan_White

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