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bug #44568: Wrong Russian TTF Name for Bold face

Submitter:  None
Submitted:  Wed 18 Mar 2015 10:43:49 AM UTC
   
 
Category:  font info Severity:  3 - Normal
Item Group:  installation Status:  Fix posted
Privacy:  Public Assigned to:  Stevan_White
Originator Email:  -email is unavailable- Open/Closed:  Open
Release:  * 2012-05-03
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Wed 25 Mar 2015 05:25:55 AM UTC, comment #7: 

Well, Open Sans is also released at Github, you can download directly from here.

Hsing-yen He <hammerandsickle>
Tue 24 Mar 2015 01:42:29 PM UTC, comment #6: 

Hi Steve.

1) There is no such tradition or rule to capitalize every word in a name in Russian. We usually capitalize the first word only: "Полужирный курсив"

2) I'll try to explain.
The word "Полужирный" may be translated as "Semi-bold", and the word "Жирный" - as "Bold". But I usually see exactly "Полужирный" in a font name (in the font style, usually) in most apps, when it means the bold typeface. The exact representation of names and styles may be different in different apps. That's how it looks for OpenSans font family in LibreOffice:

Filename                       Font name            Weight    Style
OpenSans-Regular.ttf           Open Sans            400       Обычный (Regular)
OpenSans-Italic.ttf            Open Sans            400       Курсив (Italic)
OpenSans-Bold.ttf              Open Sans            700       Полужирный (Bold)
OpenSans-BoldItalic.ttf        Open Sans            700       Полужирный курсив (Bold Italic)

OpenSans-Semibold.ttf          Open Sans Semibold   600       Обычный (Regular)
OpenSans-SemiboldItalic.ttf    Open Sans Semibold   600       Курсив (Italic)

OpenSans-Light.ttf             Open Sans Light      300       Обычный (Regular)
OpenSans-LightItalic.ttf       Open Sans Light      300       Курсив (Italic)

There may be also the "Oblique" style, "Наклонный" in Russian. E.g. in FreeMono family.

Anonymous
Sun 22 Mar 2015 06:00:02 PM UTC, comment #5: 

Wiktionary also provide several translations for boldface:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/boldface

Hsing-yen He <hammerandsickle>
Sun 22 Mar 2015 05:52:54 PM UTC, comment #4: 

Hi Steve,

I refered it at Wiktionary, I was not found “Полужирный” but found “жирный” from here. Жирный is nominative or accusative (and inanimate) from, this word is masculine. I think полужирный may have similar use.

Then I found bold typeface is called “полужирный шрифт” in Russian.

Wikipedia article Cyrillic script also explained “A boldfaced type is called poluzhirniy shrift ("semi-bold type"), because there existed fully boldfaced shapes that have been out of use since the beginning of the 20th century.”

Hsing-yen He <hammerandsickle>
Sun 22 Mar 2015 08:31:51 AM UTC, comment #3: 

Hi Vlad!

No need to upload thw whole files, I can easily change the TTF names.

It's unclear to me how this happened.  I did check with a Russian speaker.  It looks like I just mixed the words up in some of the fonts (but not others).

Questions:

1) Is it best to capitalize the words, or not?

2) I'm unsure of the grammar for bold italic:
    Полужирный Курсив

(In some languages, it is common to treat these as adjectives rather than as part of the name.)

Thanks!!!

Steve White <Stevan_White>
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Thu 19 Mar 2015 09:09:45 PM UTC, comment #2: 

Oh no. There should be one more file: FreeSerifBold.sfd. I can't attach it, the size limit is reached.

Best regards. Vlad.

Anonymous
Thu 19 Mar 2015 09:02:26 PM UTC, comment #1: 

Hi all. I've solved this issue by my own. The problem was in incorrect translation of TTF Names in Russian in source SFD files. I post here SFD files, that I've corrected (only replaced incorrect strings in TTF names) and generated TTF fonts.

Replaced "Обычный" to "Полужирный" (last word means "Bold") in TTF Names.

Please, consider to publish these patched fonts to all.

(file #33402, file #33403, file #33404)

Anonymous
Wed 18 Mar 2015 10:43:49 AM UTC, original submission:  

Hi.

The issue is actual for TTF FreeSerif (2012 release) and Windows 7 with Russian locale. FreeSerif Bold font is recognized as "Обычный" (Regular) by OS. So I can't install both Bold and Regular fonts simultaneously.

BoldItalic is recognized as "Обычный Курсив" (Regular Italic). However, both BoldItalic and Italic are installed without any problems.

Anonymous

 

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Attached Files
file #33404:  ttf.7z added by None (810KiB - application/x-7z-compressed - Patched files.)
file #33403:  FreeSansBoldOblique.sfd added by None (831KiB - application/vnd.font-fontforge-sfd - Patched files.)
file #33402:  FreeSerifBoldItalic.sfd added by None (1MiB - application/vnd.font-fontforge-sfd - Patched files.)

 

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    Date Changed by Updated Field Previous Value => Replaced by
    2015-04-12 Stevan_White StatusProceeding Fix posted
    2015-03-22 Stevan_White StatusNone Proceeding
        Assigned toNone Stevan_White
        SummaryUnable to install TTF FreeSerif Bold and Regular on Windows 7 (RUS) Wrong Russian TTF Name for Bold face
    2015-03-19 None Attached File- Added FreeSerifBoldItalic.sfd, #33402
        Attached File- Added FreeSansBoldOblique.sfd, #33403
        Attached File- Added ttf.7z, #33404

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