bugFree UCS Outline Fonts - Bugs: bug #22266, excessive overshoot - FreeSansBold

 
 

bug #22266: excessive overshoot - FreeSansBold

Submitted by:  None
Submitted on:  Sat 09 Feb 2008 01:54:56 PM UTC  
 
Category: individual character(s)Severity: 4 - Important
Item Group: bulk text appearance poorStatus: Fixed
Privacy: PublicAssigned to: Steve White <Stevan_White>
Open/Closed: ClosedRelease: 2006-01-26

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Fri 02 Sep 2011 07:25:45 AM UTC, comment #5:

The situation has greatly improved on Linux.

Modification of the Blues values have had an effect, but recent versions of the font rendering software in Ubuntu anyway have improved so that this is not so much a bug as an aesthetic choice.

Previously, at some font sizes, the letters of the font seemed to be staggered visually, due to the overshoot. This no longer happens, to my eye. See attached image.

It depends on the application, but for general text display, I think FreeSans works very well.

Steve White <Stevan_White>
Project AdministratorIn charge of this item.
Mon 27 Apr 2009 07:55:39 AM UTC, comment #4:

See also bug #26187:
FreeSans TTF 'e', and others drop down as font size increases
https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?2618

Steve White <Stevan_White>
Project AdministratorIn charge of this item.
Sat 01 Mar 2008 05:23:54 PM UTC, comment #3:

This is the purview of BlueValues.
See Adobe Type 1 spec

In FontForge, the blue horizontal lines. See View -> Grid Fit
FontInfo -> PS Private: BlueValues, BlueScale

See also http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ProductionGuidelines.mspx
on overshoots

Steve White <Stevan_White>
Project AdministratorIn charge of this item.
Sat 09 Feb 2008 01:54:56 PM UTC, comment #2:

This item has been reassigned from the project Free UCS Outline Fonts support tracker to your tracker.

The original report is still available at support #105396

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[field #0] Item ID: 105396
[field #1] Group ID: 1405
[field #2] Open/Closed: Open
[field #3] Severity: 3 - Normal
[field #4] Privacy: Public
[field #7] : Unknown support Field Display Type
[field #9] Category: None
[field #10] Submitted by: None
[field #11] Assigned to: Stevan_White
[field #12] Submitted on: Monday 06/12/2006 at 11:26
[field #13] Summary: font letters height - FreeSansBold
[field #14] Original Submission: when the size of FreeSans font is increased, letters have different hight and this looks terrible, is it possible to avoid this somehow?

see attached screenshot
[field #16] Item Group: None
[field #17] Status: Confirmed
[field #18] Component Version: None
[field #19] Operating System: None
[field #20] Reproducibility: None
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[field #22] Fixed Release: None
[field #23] Planned Release: None
[field #24] Effort: 0.00
[field #28] Priority: 5 - Normal
[field #31] Percent Complete: 0%
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Steve White <Stevan_White>
Project AdministratorIn charge of this item.
Sat 09 Feb 2008 01:08:56 PM UTC, comment #1:

Hi,

The poster's example looks like FreeSansBold at about 16pt.
I tried his text with gedit.

And I agree, it doesn't look good.

The problem lies in the overshoot for most of the round letters.
The overshoot is quite excessive.
Overshoot is supposed to make the basline appear more uniform, not less uniform.

In particular, the capital C dips far below the baseline. When followed by a letter with no overshoot such as r, it looks misplaced.

Steve White <Stevan_White>
Project AdministratorIn charge of this item.
Sat 09 Feb 2008 01:54:56 PM UTC, original submission:

when the size of FreeSans font is increased, letters have different hight and this looks terrible, is it possible to avoid this somehow?

see attached screenshot

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    Date Changed By Updated Field Previous Value => Replaced By
    Thu 01 Dec 2011 10:27:41 PM UTCStevan_WhiteOpen/ClosedOpen=>Closed
    Fri 02 Sep 2011 11:03:07 AM UTCStevan_WhiteAttached File-=>Added FreeSans-waterfall.png, #23925
    Fri 02 Sep 2011 07:25:45 AM UTCStevan_WhiteStatusPostponed=>Fixed
    Sat 27 Aug 2011 08:43:10 PM UTCStevan_WhiteStatusConfirmed=>Postponed
    Fri 11 Jul 2008 05:50:54 PM UTCStevan_WhiteAttached File#16064=>Removed
    Wed 09 Jul 2008 07:30:49 AM UTCNoneAttached File-=>Added get_apache_80x15_2.png, #16064
    Fri 15 Feb 2008 08:42:21 AM UTCStevan_WhiteSeverity3 - Normal=>4 - Important
    Wed 13 Feb 2008 08:33:07 PM UTCStevan_WhiteSummaryfont letters height - FreeSansBold=>excessive overshoot - FreeSansBold
    Sat 09 Feb 2008 02:01:32 PM UTCStevan_WhiteCategoryNone=>individual character(s)
      Item GroupNone=>bulk text appearance poor
      StatusNone=>Confirmed
      Assigned toNone=>Stevan_White
      ReleaseNone=>2006-01-26
    Sat 09 Feb 2008 01:54:56 PM UTCStevan_WhiteReassign itemFree UCS Outline Fonts, sr #105396=>Free UCS Outline Fonts, bug #22266

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